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Andy has been taking the One Billion Row Challenge, and has been thinking about the broader question of what makes software fast.

 

Andy’s videos on Peertube and YouTube.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It’s yet another hot questions episode. Colour schemes, syntax highlighting, code patterns, fonts, and keyboards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We get into dependency management. The pros and cons of tools like Dependabot, the varying approaches with different languages and standard library sizes, the times when pinning dependencies makes sense, and more.

 

Turn Dependabot Off

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In the wake of Discord’s recent announcement about age verification, Matrix recently came in for a lot of criticism by a lot of people who said it’s not a viable replacement. Andy works on Matrix for a living and Amolith is invested in the XMPP world so we get into secure messaging, trade-offs between security and user experience, federation, and more.

 

Piss up at The Shipwrights Arms (just next to London Bridge station) on Saturday 27th June from 6pm until late

 

 

 

 

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The importance of having and sticking to correct development processes, what can go wrong when you don’t, and how to fix the problems you might end up with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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People often like to talk down Electron, but it is really that bad? There may be better ways to use Web technologies to make desktop apps, but isn’t having Linux versions of apps a good thing no matter how they are made?

 

We mentioned Tauri and Wails.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The career progression options you have as a software engineer, moving from junior to senior dev, other paths you can go down like architecture or tech lead, and why management isn’t for everyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Software complexity is a complex topic, so we dig into it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dealing with a crisis as a developer, how to keep everyone in the loop while you fix systems and code, why pointing the blame isn’t useful, some of our horror stories, and more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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What we are likely to be doing when you hear this, and why it’s unlikely to involve much in the way of development. This is a short episode because Joe is having a break for the Christmas period.

 

 

 

 

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How far you can go with eliminating global variables, forcing everything you ever need to be passed in as arguments.

 

 

 

 

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When the right time to make a big change to your software is, how you get users to test pre-release versions, how long you keep old features around, when that’s not possible, and more.

 

 

 

 

 

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What object-oriented programming is, why it went out of fashion, and how more modern approaches to development incorporate some of its aspects.

 

 

 

 

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Some of the languages that we love and why we love them. It’s not just Rust, honest!

 

 

 

 

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With constant news stories about security issues with developer-published software in package managers like npm, we weigh up the pros and cons of this approach to distributing open source software.

 

 

 

 

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What makes a good commit, the tools we use to help us produce good commits, and why we care about this.

 

 

 

 

 

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Some of the alternatives to GitHub that we use, why we use them, and how they differ in terms of features and workflows.

 

 

 

 

 

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A lot of key open source software is paid for by large companies. That has some advantages, but it can also cause some issues. Maybe it would be better if more FOSS development was paid for by smaller companies and contributions from users.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We explore the differences between terms like coder, software developer, engineer, and architect. They are often used interchangeably, but there can be real differences between them. Or at least once upon a time there were differences.

 

 

 

Vibe coders are in for a shock. Writing code was never that hard.

Don’t Let Architecture Astronauts Scare You

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not invented here syndrome is very common in open source. We get into why that is, when it makes sense to start your own project from scratch, and how contributing to existing software can sometimes be better for everyone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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With the recent news of Bcachefs (probably) being removed from the Linux kernel, we are joined by Allan Jude from 2.5 Admins and Klara to discuss some of what we think went wrong, how to manage and maintain multiple releases of a project at once, and why release engineering is an important concept.

 

 

 

 

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What it takes to sustain a medium-to-large-sized open source project.

 

 

 

 

 

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When and how to use benchmarking in your project, why it’s hard, and why optimising your code can be even harder.

 

• Blog post about the speed of ripgrep
• hyperfine: A command-line benchmarking tool
• Profile-guided optimization
• Andy benchmarking IndexedDb

 

 

 

 

 

 

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How we deal with complex projects involving non-technical people as well as developers. How to manage expectations about timing, how to deal with issues, why documenting conversations is important, and more.

 

 

 

 

 

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What are the fundamental ideas and components of development and programming?

 

 

 

 

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It’s another hot questions episode. Tabs vs spaces, whether we have imposter syndrome, why software keeps getting heavier, the correct length of functions and files, and what every programmer should know.

 

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• Interesting Characters (UTF-16, utf-8, Unicode, encodings)
• Software Design is Knowledge Building
• The Absolute Minimum Every Software Developer Must Know About Unicode in 2023 (Still No Excuses!)

 

 

 

 

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Andy is convinced that functional programming isn’t boring. Listen to find out if he’s right!

 

Functional Programming & Haskell

Beautiful Racket

Functional Programming & Haskell – Computerphile

 

 

 

 

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We’ve done hot takes episodes in the past but this is different, it’s hot questions. Would we rather have bad managers who can code or good managers who can’t? Too many comments or none? 80 columns or as long as you like? What editor do we use and why?

 

Vim for Fun or PeerTube version

 

 

 

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Joe accidentally tried vibe coding and it was as much of a disaster as you’d imagine. Amolith has also tried it, and does his best to defend the use of LLMs with development. Kevin and Andy are mostly bemused. We all have concerns about the ethics and environmental issues.

This episode has a bit more bad language than usual.

 

 

 

 

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Our advice on how to move into a career in software development including making and contributing to projects, advocating for your work, collaborating, avoiding exploitation, learning Git, and loads more.

 

 

 

 

 

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Andy is only publishing his games on F-Droid and not the Google Play Store from now on, and he tells us why.

 

Rabbit Escape

Box Stacker

Smolpxl Games

Adresilo

Sepia Search

 

 

 

 

 

 

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We dig into the technical details of the Linux Kernel Rust drama.

 

 

 

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Mark from Linux Matters who’s a web developer joins us to talk about working in PHP – a language that’s mature and well established, and how that compares with working with newer “cooler” languages like Rust and Go.

 

Moodle

Mark’s Bash text adventure

Bash associative array examples

 

 

 

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Where is the balance between efficiency and openness when it comes to saved file formats? If everything was based on plain text it would make the files readable for years to come, but at what cost?

 

 

 

 

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We dig into SQLite – an interesting and unusual project that is widely used but has an uncommon licence, a proprietary test suite, and doesn’t take external contributions. Plus printf() vs “proper” debugging.

 

 

 

 

 

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We explore the line between developer and sysadmin and come to the conclusion that despite the clear difference between the roles, there is a lot of crossover when it comes to skills and character traits.

 

The Six Dumbest Ideas in Computer Security

 

 

 

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We are joined by popey from Linux Matters to talk about how software packaging has changed over the years. The tooling has improved massively, containerisation has made a huge impact, but Andy still prefers the old distro repo model.

 

 

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More of our development hot takes including excessive energy use, optimising your code, the importance of licences, Matrix and Jabber being on the same side, the myth of secure code, and why self-hosting is hard.

watt-wiser

 

 

 

 

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Some of the work-adjacent things that we do including writing code that we shouldn’t like writing Rust in Rust, fun projects that turned into paid work, and career progression. Plus some of our go to resources for learning about development.

 

Some resources we mentioned

Andy’s videos – Rust, General

Lobsters

Amolith’s RSS feeds

Computer inside Terraria

Fasterthanlime

Self-Directed Research Podcast

Jon Gjengset

Jon Gjengset – YouTube

DevConf – YouTube

MEAP Catalog

 

 

 

 

 

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Our development hot takes including “rewrite it in Rust”, lack of documentation, single vs multiple monitors, dependency numbers, light vs dark mode, and distro package repos.

 

 

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You need to be able to write good code to be a successful developer, but how important are other “soft” skills like communication, relating to and motivating others, and time management?

Kevin mentioned a blog post about burnout in the Rust project

 

 

 

 

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Campbell Barton joins us to talk about porting Blender, the hugely popular professional 3D software, to Wayland.

 

Wayland support in blender task

Wayland Support on Linux

 

 

 

 

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What is it about Linux that draws us to it as a development platform? Plus why we choose the specific distros that we use.

 

 

 

 

 

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Following on from our episode about dealing with a horrible codebase, Andy argues that completely rewriting a project is almost always a bad idea.

Things You Should Never Do, Part I

 

 

 

 

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Kevin and Andy talk about their project extremes: the oldest and newest projects they’ve worked on, the biggest and smallest codebases, the ugliest hack, the most elegant, the most popular, the most trivial, and the most important.

 

Andy’s links

git-what

IGCC

Box Stacker

Rightwaves

Eat Apples Quick!

Smolpxl Games

Rabbit Escape Android Game

element-web

matrix-rust-sdk

FreeGuide

i-dunno

Announcing I-DUNNO 1.0 and web-i-dunno

qdsync

 

Kevin’s links

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typed-oid

usbwatch-rs

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wireguard_exporter

CLI2048

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How to deal with a horrible codebase that you’ve inherited. Getting started, breaking the problem into smaller pieces, understanding what’s actually wrong, the importance of testing (as usual), and why technical debt isn’t necessarily the best name for the problem.

 

Working Effectively with Legacy Code

 

 

 

 

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Developing as part of an in-person team vs working remotely, synchronous vs asynchronous development, how to make a hybrid team work effectively, and how code review fits into it all.

 

 

 

 

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What agile software development is exactly, why planning and being willing to adapt the plan are key, the pros and cons of all the process that’s involved, the role that scrum plays, and why it’s all about communication.

 

Study finds 268% higher failure rates for Agile software projects

Amolith will be at Fossy in August.

 

 

 

 

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Andy is annoyed that so much free and open source software is hosted on a proprietary platform that’s owned by Microsoft. There are plenty of alternatives to GitHub, but ultimately the network effect is why so many people host their code there. We dream of a proper federated solution. Maybe one day…

 

 

 

 

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If you want to be a good developer, how many different programming languages should you learn? Maybe becoming an expert in one specific language is the way to go. Maybe it’s more a case of learning different concepts and paradigms than languages.

 

 

 

 

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Forks are a fundamental aspect of open source software so we get into the different types of forks, when and why you might want to fork a project, the maintenance burden that comes with a hard fork, the importance of winning mindshare for your fork, what exactly counts as a fork, when it’s not always a great idea to fork, and more.

 

 

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We are joined by Allan Jude to talk about what it’s like to run a company that develops and maintains open source software with a focus on upstreaming as much code as possible.

 

Klara

November 2023 FreeBSD Vendor Summit – The Value of Upstream First

How to upstream code to open source projects

FiloSottile (Filippo Valsorda)

 

 

 

 

 

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Andy is a huge proponent of test-driven development and explains why – including types of code testing including unit tests and integration tests, when you actually need to run tests, how long they should take, and more.

 

Emily Bache

cyber‑dojo

Test with Go

 

 

 

 

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Kevin and Andy answer Joe’s noob questions about development including the differences between compiled and interpreted languages, C vs C++, why the Linux kernel is written in C, Go vs Rust, and what memory safety means.

 

 

 

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We are joined by Drew DeVault to discuss his programming language called Hare, which aims for 100 years of forwards compatibility.

We mentioned Drew’s blog posts Can I be on your podcast? and It takes a village

 

 

 

 

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How we first learned to code, and how we learn new technologies now.

Snake in Terraform
Snake in lots of languages
Web server in Sinclair BASIC

 

 

 

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What we’ve learned over the years about the interview process for software development jobs, both as the applicant and the interviewer.

 

 

 

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The automation tools we use in our development and why we use them. Plus how to engage with your project’s community – both in real time, and asynchronously.

 

 

 

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Andy Balaam joins us to talk about accepting contributions from devs with varying levels of experience. When to invest the time to mentor them, why documentation is important, how automated tools fit in, being willing to decline some contributions, dealing with companies vs individuals, and more.

 

 

 

 

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How we use AI coding assistants like GitHub Copilot, what they have done to the development industry, what might happen in the future, and the ethics of the whole thing. With guest host Linus.

 

 

 

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We follow up on last episode with some clarifications from Amolith about code collaboration. Plus we get into development workflows in general, code review, the paradigms we couldn’t do without, and more. With guest host Linus.

 

Amolith mentioned a Low energy game jam.

 

 

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When it comes to collaboration workflows, Amolith dislikes the pull request model that GitHub made popular and much prefers the email/patch-based approach. Kevin does his best to get to the bottom of why, and Joe wonders if it might come down to disliking Microsoft.

 

Your GitHub pull request workflow is slowing everyone down

Graphite

git-branchless

 

 

 

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Linux Downtime is now Linux Dev Time!

In this first episode we talk about “sharpening our tools” – changing your dev tools, trying out new languages, using existing code vs writing something new, how to get over creative blocks, and more.

 

How Often Should We Sharpen Our Tools?

 

 

 

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Kevin joins us to talk about the hype that surrounds some programming languages like Rust and Python, how some languages like Java went out of fashion, and why the likes of PHP never saw much hype at all. With guest host Jim from 2.5 Admins.

 

Kevin’s Twitter

Kevin’s Mastodon

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There’s a meme that software developers should be forced to use low end hardware to experience what it’s like to be a real user. So what hardware should devs actually use to test their software? How does this differ for GUI and CLI applications? With guest host Jim from 2.5 Admins.

 

 

 

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We are joined by Roger Light to discuss what it’s like to work for a company that uses the open core model — maintaining an open source project and offering additional paid for proprietary features. With guest host Jim from 2.5 Admins.

 

Mosquitto

Cedalo

 

 

 

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We are joined by Marcin Kulik – the creator and maintainer of asciinema. We talk about the project itself, developing on Linux, IDEs, targetting a technical audience, the advantages of writing for a command line interface, why -R is always wrong for the recursive flag, and more. With guest host Jim from 2.5 Admins.

Marcin on Mastodon

asciinema on Mastodon

asciinema on Matrix

 

 

 

 

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Jim Salter joins us to talk about getting the most out of your open source project. From designing and planning, to attracting contributors, considering the correct scope, building on top of existing software, and more.

 

Sanoid and Syncoid

Perlpv

Jim’s website

Jim’s social media links

2.5 Admins podcast

 

 

 

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How to get hired for your first development job, more on contributor license agreements, and our thoughts on different immutable OS approaches.

 

Fiduciary Licence Agreement (FLA) – FSFE

Why the FSF Gets Copyright Assignments from Contributors

 

 

 

 

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We are joined by Element developer Andy Balaam to talk about working on open source software after 20 years in the proprietary world. We get into working in public, the realities of accepting code contributions, being part of a distributed team, the pros and cons of working from home, and more.

 

Andy’s links:

Live streams

Website and blog

Andy’s programming videos

Retro games

 

 

 

 

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We are all on board with the right to be forgotten but it can cause some tricky problems for open source projects – particularly small ones. Plus why we won’t stop going on about why we take such a dim view of crypto.

Amolith mentioned a toot from the Tor Project.

 

 

 

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Why Amolith uses Arch, why Gary uses Debian, and why Joe uses Ubuntu.

 

 

 

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Contributor license agreements aren’t very popular, but not having a CLA can cause problems for projects in the future. Gary can’t do things like publishing Pidgin on Apple’s app stores, and Amolith is wrestling with how to keep his options open for the SaaS project he’s working on.

Don’t sign a CLA

Seriously, don’t sign a CLA

 

 

 

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We are joined by Chris Waldon to talk about how to get started with coding and software development.

Chris mentioned his blog.

 

 

 

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Is there really a renaissance in open communication tools? Does the success of the Fediverse mean that people are finally moving away from the huge companies that lock your data up? Are FOSS people just living in a bubble while the world continues to use the big platforms? How does Meta/Facebook joining the Fediverse fit into the picture? What about Bluesky?

 

 

 

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Jorge tries to address Félim‘s concerns about immutable desktop distros like Silverblue and Universal Blue.

 

 

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Amolith attempts to argue that avoiding ads using open source software is piracy, and that piracy in this case is good.

 

 

 

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Part 2 of our chat with Molly White from Web3 is Going Just Great. This time we talk about Mastodon and the Fediverse, central bank digital currencies, cashless societies, the hype around AI, corporate surveillance, and more.

Check out part 1 here

Molly’s Mastodon

 

 

 

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We are joined by Molly White from Web3 is Going Just Great to talk about the issues with crypto, Bitcoin, the Lightning network, blockchain, NFTs, and “web3”.

 

Molly’s Mastodon

 

 

Amolith will be at SELF June 9-11 in Charlotte NC.

 

 

 

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Liam from Gaming on Linux joins us to talk about the current state of Linux gaming, the Steam Deck, how things progressed to this point, Valve being the driving force behind it all, whether the lack of native Linux games matters when Proton exists, and loads more.

 

Gaming on Linux YouTube channel

 

Check out Linux Matters

 

 

 

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We are joined by Amolith from Linux Lads and Alan Pope to discuss Generation Z’s view of technology, and whether modern abstraction layers ultimately detract from ideas of software freedom and digital rights.

 

 

 

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We are joined by Alex from Self-Hosted to talk about home media setups. Is it a good idea to use a NAS running a desktop while connected to a TV, or does something like an Nvidia Shield make more sense?

 

 

 

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What is the right level of customisation for the Linux desktop?

 

 

 

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Should open source projects use open platforms for their communities, or should they meet people where they are – places like Discord?

Join the Discord server, Telegram group, Matrix room, or IRC channel.

 

 

 

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Martin tells us about why he decided to work with Nix and NixOS professionally.

 

He mentioned Determinate Systems and Zero to Nix

 

 

 

 

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In the modern world where we run more and more software from outside our distros’ repositories, how do we know what to trust?

 

 

 

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Martin, Gary, and Hayden explain how their regular live streams benefit the open source projects that they work on.

 

Martin’s Twitch and YouTube

Gary’s Twitch

Hayden’s YouTube

 

 

 

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Modding a Game Cube with a Raspberry Pi Pico, writing a book about cross-platform and cross-architecture development, and the struggles of self-hosted security camera footage.

 

 

 

 

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Alan Pope (popey) joins us to discuss building and fostering a positive and productive community.

 

 

 

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Martin has created a new desktop environment and a container tool, Gary has been clustering Raspberry Pis, and Hayden has been playing with the new Microsoft Arm box.

 

Butterfly

Turing Pi

Windows Dev Kit 2023

machinespawn

 

 

 

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Simon Butcher joins us to talk about how open source AI can be, in theory and in practice.

 

 

 

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What problems that we are currently facing will be solved with Linux and FOSS in the future, and why does it involve AI/ML?

 

 

 

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Does it matter where you host your FOSS code? GitHub benefits from the network effect, but other options have their own benefits. Plus Gary explains why he doesn’t use Git.

 

 

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What’s the best way to implement telemetry and metrics in open source software, and should it be opt-in or opt-out?

 

 

 

 

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What F/OSS means to us and why it’s important.

 

 

 

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It’s part 2 of our discussion about sustainability in FOSS.

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There is a sustainability problem in FOSS. How do we fix it?

 

 

 

 

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Hayden explains why he uses Windows Subsystem for Linux on a daily basis, and argues that Microsoft is a very different organisation from the one that was so hostile to FOSS 20+ years ago.

He mentioned his unofficial timeline of Microsoft’s transition towards open source.

 

 

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Martin and Hayden explain what it’s actually like to use GitHub Copilot, and why they think it’s going to have a positive impact open source software. Plus Hayden explains the legal nuances.

 

 

 

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Stuart Langridge joins us to discuss the nuances of gatekeeping in the Linux community, and why he thinks we inadvertently engaged in it on the last episode.

 

 

 

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Kyle joins us again, along with Hayden Barnes to answer the question: what exactly is a Linux distribution these days? The rise of immutable filesystems, containerisation, virtualisation, hypervisors, and abstraction layers makes this more complex than it might appear.

 

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Martin and Joe are joined by Kyle Fazzari to reimagine the Linux desktop. What we’d do differently if we were starting over today, who we’d aim it at, what packaging system we’d use, what interface, and more.

 

Kyle’s Twitter thread

 

 

 

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How do you progress your career as a FOSS enthusiast?

 

 

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Adam tries to sell Fedora to Joe and Martin, two Ubuntu (flavour) users.

 

 

 

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Joe and Adam are joined by Martin Wimpress to talk about what goes into running a distro like Ubuntu Mate. Governance and finances, the benefits of being an official Ubuntu flavour, hardware enablement, and more.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Alex Kretzschmar from the Self-Hosted podcast to talk about what and why Alex self-hosts, the hardware and software he uses, and how his approaches have changed over the years.

 

Alex mentioned his Twitter, his blog, a specific blog post about transcoding video, and Serverbuilds.net.

 

 

 

 

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Joe and Gary from Linux After Dark talk about installing and running the first alpha of Asahi Linux on an M1 Mac Mini and Macbook Air, as both a desktop and a headless server.

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by Stuart Langridge to talk about Open Web Advocacy, a group of software engineers from all over the world who have come together to advocate for the future of the open web.

 

Stuart’s consulting company Kryogenix

@sil on Twitter

 

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by Adam Pigg, a member of the Sailfish OS Community who has ported the OS to various phones.

 

A thread with some of Adam’s history

Jolla forum post about Russia

Twitter reply about Russia

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by Joey Sneddon from OMG! Ubuntu! to talk about how Ubuntu and its community have changed over the years, snaps, GNOME, Flutter, WSL, and more.

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Joe is joined by Jorge Castro to talk about distros with immutable filesystems like Fedora Silverblue, and Flatpak and Flathub.

 

Jorge mentioned:

His list of resources

Setting yourself up for success before trying Fedora Silverblue

distrobox

ublue

sodalite

Ideas on growing the Flathub Community in 2022

An example command for zoom which will show you what the app sees:
flatpak run –command=sh –devel us.zoom.Zoom

 

 

[This show used to be called Late Night Linux Extra. Don’t worry, the fabric of reality isn’t breaking down.]

 

 

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Adam and Neal return to talk about Google’s mysterious open source operating system Fuchsia.

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by Chris from Linux After Dark and Fedora user Adam Dean to discuss using GNOME and why we shouldn’t bash it so often. Adam wrote a book called the Linux Administration Cookbook.

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by Allan Jude from the 2.5 Admins and BSD Now podcasts to talk about FreeBSD. Allan mentioned his company Klara.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Carl George, a Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat, to discuss Fedora, RHEL, CentOS Linux, and CentOS Stream.

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Joe and Alex from the Self-Hosted podcast discuss DockerSlim and Slim AI with Martin Wimpress. Martin mentioned SlimDevOps on Twitch.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Btrfs advocate Neal Gompa and ZFS advocate Jim Salter (from 2.5 Admins) to discuss Jim’s recent criticism of Btrfs.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Gary Kramlich, the Pidgin project maintainer. Gary mentioned the contributing page, and the upcoming State of the Bird event which will be streamed on his Twitch channel.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Alyssa Rosenzweig, a graphics developer who’s passionate about software freedom and leads the Panfrost and Asahi graphics drivers, about porting Linux to the M1 Macs.

 

Gary, Chris and Dalton haven’t disappeared. We’ve launched a new show called Linux After Dark.

 

 

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Dalton gives us his first impressions of the Framework laptop, why we didn’t talk about AMD mobile CPUs when the M1 came up, and what we do when the software we want isn’t in the main repo.

 

 

 

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Gary, Chris, Dalton, and Joe discuss reporting bugs, why we don’t always do it, and why we really should.

 

 

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Gary, Chris, and Joe are joined by Dalton to discuss whether platforms really matter in an age where they all offer so much choice with Virtualization, WSL, proton, and cloud desktops etc.

 

 

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Gary, Chris, and Joe cover some of your feedback about why we use traditional GTK desktops rather than Plasma or a tiling window manager, why we don’t use MikroTik network gear, and Joe’s “homelab”.

 

 

 

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Joe talks to Chris and Gary about their homelab setups, their use of the cloud, and how it all ties together with WireGuard.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Chris and Gary again to discuss cryptocurrencies, blockchain, and NFTs. Our history, our mistakes, and ultimately why we became jaded about the whole thing.

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by Chris and Gary to discuss how we got into Linux around a decade ago, and what would be different for someone getting into it these days.

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by Chris and listener Orlando to talk about why Arch and derivatives like Artix Linux are perfect for some users.

Chris mentioned a talk called The Tragedy of systemd.

 

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In this community meetup recording, we discuss what lengths we all go to to protect our privacy.

 

 

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In this community meetup recording, we discuss the realities of using a FOSS-only phone.

 

 

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In this community meetup recording, we discuss how far we are all willing to go to support people who we switch to Linux.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Sean Davis to discuss the his shift from Xfce develpment towards elementary OS, and then we find out that Félim has a lot more tech superstitions than he thought. There is some bad language in this episode.

 

 

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The importance of open source vs open standards, and the best way to move beyond the Linux desktop into servers and headless boxes.

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How do we get the next generation of kids into Linux and FOSS? A question we tried to answer in this recording from a community meetup.

 

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In the latest community meetup recording we discuss the best distros for low end and high end hardware.

 

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In this recording from the second community meetup we talk about why we use our particular distros including Mint, Manjaro and Solus, and hear from a WSL user who’s relatively new to Linux.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Alan Pope – Developer Advocate at Canonical working on Snapcraft & Ubuntu to talk about Snaps. The PR problem, the non-free element, security, speed issues, and even some positive stuff. Honest.

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What’s likely to happen over the next year in open source, how we evaluate the security and privacy of distros, and more in this recording of the first LNL community meetup.

 

 

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Joe is joined by Brent Gervais, a professional photographer who exclusively uses Linux, to discuss the insights he has gained into the open source mindset during his time as host of Brunch with Brent; including a deep sense of collaboration, and the inherent optimism which occasionally causes issues.

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by former colleague Drew DeVore to talk about his new job as a sysadmin, the ridiculous lengths he goes to in order to use Linux for everything, Fedora and Silverblue, Flatpak and Snaps, WSL, constantly trying out new software, and much more.

 

 

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The Raspberry Pi 400 is here!

Joe is joined by Jim Salter from Ars Technica and 2.5 Admins to discuss his initial impressions, and then Martin Wimpress to talk about Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu MATE on the Pi 400 and Pi 4.

 

 

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Kyle returns again, this time to address some of the feedback we have received from previous episodes, and to talk about his brief experiences with Pop!_OS.

 

Kyle mentioned f.lux and Winamp.

 

 

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Kyle returns, this time to talk to Joe about his experiences with Xubuntu.

 

 

 

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Joe is joined by Kyle, a technical Windows user who cares about privacy and security. He tried Linux but didn’t stick with it. We try to get to the bottom of why that happened.

 

 

 

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LNL Extra is back! Joe is joined by Michael Hall to talk about his experiences of converting conferences to online events.

 

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It’s the OggCamp 2018 live show!

 

Joe is joined by Jon Spriggs, Martin Wimpress, Dan Lynch, and Dave Lee at OggCamp.

We spoke about spreading the word about collaboration culture, and how we rationalise using proprietary solutions over open ones.

 

 

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It’s the last episode of LNLE. At least for the time being.

 

 

GIMP 2.10

Jehan Pagès spoke about the latest major release of GIMP, but forgot to plug the film that he’s working on called ZeMarmot.

 

Bad News

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Asteroid OS 1.0 and openSUSE Leap 15.

 

Asteroid OS

Florent Revest talks about the recent release of Asteroid OS, the open source operating system for smartwatches.

 

 

openSUSE Leap 15

Richard Brown talks about the recent openSUSE Leap 15 release.

 

 

 

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The new KDE Plasma beta and the future of Xubuntu.

 

KDE Plasma 5.13 beta and Berlin Sprint

Jonathan Riddell talks about the recent KDE sprint in Berlin and the recent beta of Plasma 5.13. We also spoke about running KDE Neon on the Pinebook, and also the Slimbook II.

 

Xubuntu

Sean Davis talks about the future of Joe’s favourite distro, Xubuntu.

 

 

 

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A new sister show is born! Joe finds out about the recent Fedora 28 release and the upcoming beta of elementary OS 5.

 

Fedora 28

Matthew Miller talks about the new release of Fedora.

 

elementary OS 5 beta

Daniel Foré talks about the upcoming beta of Juno.

 

 

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It’s another hot questions episode. Whether we think better on our own or with other people, our non-standard debugging habits, favourite interview questions, coding at night, character encoding, and abolishing time zones.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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